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Post by quebbstion on Dec 23, 2010 8:51:59 GMT -5
oh, and FMF hinted about being the bodyguard. I wonder if he is Strong Guy?
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Post by normalfury on Dec 23, 2010 8:53:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I caught that. Makes me wonder if there is an actual doctor still out there or if the bodyguard is the only one.
Either way, I think we should NK him.
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Post by quebbstion on Dec 23, 2010 9:20:02 GMT -5
Yeah, I caught that. Makes me wonder if there is an actual doctor still out there or if the bodyguard is the only one. Either way, I think we should NK him. With the number of nightkills shown so far, I would not be surprised if the game had both a bodyguard and a doctor. If he is a bodyguard he may have some built-in kill immunity. Could be worth sending Bullseye after him.
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Post by quebbstion on Dec 23, 2010 10:26:24 GMT -5
It might be an idea to try to frame Immortal_raven too.
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Post by silverlantern on Dec 23, 2010 11:24:53 GMT -5
Agreed that bodyguard may be immune to NKs. We need to kill the reverse tracker ASAP, which I believe is ViciousBudda (or mess with his action).
Also agree that IR hinted at being a lawyer which Jerry claimed as well. Someone needs to make a big ado about that next day phase, I would but I've already drawn some heat and Quebster was all over it so I don't want to make it look like we're in cahoots.
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Post by normalfury on Dec 23, 2010 11:25:10 GMT -5
Proposes night 3 actions:
Nick Fury: Guides Spider-Man Nightcrawler: Misdirect kontrol into Immortal_Raven (setting IR up for lynch) Spider-Man: Night kill/RB Fullmetalfreak94 (hopefully RB-ing FMF will overcome any NK immunity he might have as a bodyguard) Captain America: Frame Immortal_Raven (so we can make him suspicious for kontrol) Wolfsbane: Track The Darkstone (hinted at info power, want to know what he is up to) Bullseye: Maim Immortal_Raven in the mouth (post restriction will limit ability to defend himself) The Question: Role Block ViciousBuddha (takes care of RT)
We're vulnerable without the doctoring, but I think this could lead to a nice, fast lynch on IR and could end up paying off huge in the long run. Thoughts?
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Post by silverlantern on Dec 23, 2010 11:28:25 GMT -5
How does MDing the cop into IR set him up for the lynch, I am not following that.
Not sure we need to waste a maim on IR, he already has an uphill battle by defending Jerry and also claiming Lawyer.
I'd hit Rokk with it again just to keep him in check. We don't want him leading the town.
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Post by silverlantern on Dec 23, 2010 11:31:20 GMT -5
We could have Quebster kill Kontrol and just be done with it since he cannot be tracked or RTed. Then we don't need to RB VB.
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Post by silverlantern on Dec 23, 2010 11:33:18 GMT -5
How does MDing the cop into IR set him up for the lynch, I am not following that. My point is that Kontrol won't realize he targeted IR, unless he actually targes IR. He'll believe the results are for whomever he targets. We're framing IR, though. So even if he doesn't know he targetted IR, he'd still (theoretically) get some bad info. Which could help us lynch whomever he did target. And then, if needed, someone could say "Hey, kontrol, I tracked you targetting IR." I'm actually hoping, after what happened today, kontrol targets IR on his own... its a waste of a MD if that does happen, but this way we can gaurantee the cop hits the framed character.
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Post by modbauers on Dec 23, 2010 11:41:13 GMT -5
How does MDing the cop into IR set him up for the lynch, I am not following that. Not sure we need to waste a maim on IR, he already has an uphill battle by defending Jerry and also claiming Lawyer. I'd hit Rokk with it again just to keep him in check. We don't want him leading the town. Just remember you can't target the same body part again on someone that you've already hit (so you could maim other body parts on Rokk, but not his mouth)
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Post by silverlantern on Dec 23, 2010 11:51:12 GMT -5
The throat? Maybe the head?
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Post by quebbstion on Dec 23, 2010 12:22:27 GMT -5
if we CMD kontrol, we should force him to target someone who should be Town, like get_1. If he does target one of us, we get an alibi that way. At worst, a Townie gets a vouching on false grounds.
Also, we blocked JoH on night 1 but he still survived the hit, so I don't think letting Spiderman do the kill is enough to bypass any kill immunity FMF might have - we should let Bullseye do the hit to get that effect.
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Post by quebbstion on Dec 23, 2010 12:23:11 GMT -5
The throat? Maybe the head? Dog. In. The. Eye.
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Post by normalfury on Dec 23, 2010 12:46:34 GMT -5
if we CMD kontrol, we should force him to target someone who should be Town, like get_1. If he does target one of us, we get an alibi that way. At worst, a Townie gets a vouching on false grounds. True. I kind of doubt that; seems to me MJ was a special case due to her reliance on Spider-Man to make her work and we got lucky recruiting JoH right away. I mean, if you can't get past special role powers by using the Role Block, then what's the point of having a combined RB/NK?
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Post by quebbstion on Dec 23, 2010 13:07:34 GMT -5
I kind of doubt that; seems to me MJ was a special case due to her reliance on Spider-Man to make her work and we got lucky recruiting JoH right away. I mean, if you can't get past special role powers by using the Role Block, then what's the point of having a combined RB/NK? I can see a case either way. But roleblock + kill can be very useful against things like PGOs or Vigilante, or pretty much any power you don't want used that night. We do have a killer whose specialty is bypassing nightkill avoidance though, so I doubt a roleblock lets us do that too - I don't think Spider-man's kill does what Bullseye's does and then some extra stuff too.
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